This post is a direct follow up to my last one which ended with my colleague AP giving me some feedback that I'd requested about a lesson that she'd popped into. I wanted to share with you how our email interactions have shaped some of what I've been trying with my classes regarding interdependence.
For background, AP is a mainscale English teacher who has is in her 2nd year of teaching. I am a currently a senior leader who also Head of Maths and have been teaching for around 8 years. The content of the following emails is only edited for spelling and I have AP's permission to use them.
From: IS
Sent: 11 December 2012 11:20
To: AP
Subject: further adventures re pupil interdependence
Thanks for the feedback.
You are right the maths links were tenuous. It was more to
see how they approached a whole-class task and to observe what roles students
naturally took. Also I’ve never tried one before so I wanted to bite the
bullet and give it ago. I also wanted to try it and contemplate how I
could use it for a more mathematically rich activity it the future which brings
me on to today…
Tried a whole group task again with my year 11s
There are about 18 in the class.
This time much more maths focus.
We’d started the lesson doing surface areas. Each as a
group had to work out the surface area of the textbook on their table as they
came in (4 min)
Then discussed ppl’s answers and approaches (5 min)
Ensuring that everybody got the concept of surface area
Next I put the pole in the middle of the room
Along with a ball of string, some rulers and calculators.
Task “
As a class find the surface area of this pole. Everybody in the class must have
a worked solution by the end of the time” – 4mins.
I wandered around capturing answers and questions that diff
groups asked on the board. Wish I’d taken pics but I forgot.
Some of the kids responses that I wrote up on the board...
·
“What is the height”
·
“ how do we find it”
·
“what is the radius”
·
Do we do the diameter”
Whenever I heard somebody say something that might help the
rest of the class I asked them to write it on the board (1 person knew the
formula to use)
Really interesting to see how they worked.
A couple of kids took up the job of measurers – telling
everybody else the relevant dimensions and some started looking up the formula
in the textbooks to help their tables . Some just asked questions , which
although they didn’t’ know it- helped to structure and direct the thinking of
others and moved them forward as a class.
As a class they had solved it by the end of the 4 mins (
with no factual inout from me at all) and I used the questions that I heard
them asking during the task to frame the discussion at the end. Asking
why the information that ppl had asked for was important etc and how it helped
them to solve my problem.
Very pleased with how it went.
I really must return your pole at some point!
Regards
Iesha
From: AP
Sent: 11 December 2012 11:28
To: IS
Subject: RE: further adventures re pupil interdependence
Hey,
This sounds fantastic – I can’t believe you only gave them
4mins to complete the task and they actually did it!
In TLCs next week it would be great if you could share some
of the experiences you’ve had so far but only if you’re happy too.
I’m currently trying to think of how I can do the Trajan’s
column activity with my year 8 class but until then you can keep hold of the
pole J - yesterday I had 10 sheets
of A3 paper stuck on the windows and walls and had the pupils carouselling
around writing quotes and themes from poems. Now, their filled sheets have been
photocopied into a revision booklet – so simple, no planning and they did all
the work!
Thanks for all your feedback and updates on group work.
AP
From: IS
Sent: 11 December 2012 11:32
To: AP
Subject: RE: further adventures re pupil interdependence
I love that idea re a revision booklet. I’ve been
considering how to effectively capture info from the whole class when
they are working on separate topics and it was the one bit of negative feedback
that my y10s came back with yesterday when we did a whole class group
thing. Can I see it? I’ve got videos that they made showing
others how to do things but not sure where to put them. The following
class used them for revision and found them v helpful. Is there some sort
of school youtube?
From: AP
Sent: 11 December 2012 11:39
To: IS
Subject: RE: further adventures re pupil interdependence
I actually think there might be. There was definite talk of
Keven having set one up – maybe ask him? It’s really useful to have it
somewhere where students can access but also teachers so that they can see what
others are doing and use ideas in their own lessons. Could you perhaps do a
carousel after they’ve done their individual topics, maybe home and away groups
or 1 pupil as the teacher going round to other groups and sharing what they’ve
done?
Yep there are literally just 10 brainstorms into a booklet but
you can come take a look. Doing the same activity on Thurs morning with lower
set but I’ve put the names of the poems on the sheet as well so all they have
to do is find the quotes.
From: IS
Sent: 11 December 2012 11:50
To: AP
Subject: RE: further adventures re pupil interdependence
Yeah, they are usually brilliant with their own bits but it breaks down when finding out from others if there are more than two topics as they get bored listening to each other (even when I do it in groups-rather than whole class feedback) I find the learning breaks down as they kind of just copy the answers after a while rather than understanding how it works.
Something I want to crack this year. They are used to being sent as experts or envoys to other tables during normal lessons though so I maybe need to develop that.
From: AP
Sent: 11 December 2012 17:01
To: IS
Subject: RE: further adventures re pupil interdependence
Yeah I know what you mean, they’re on board when they are
the main focus but when they have to listen to others…I did home and away
groups last week and the first thing they did was try to copy each other’s
tables – I had to stop them and explain again what I wanted them to do.
I’d maybe focus on envoys and see how you get on. Perhaps
you can add an incentive where the group judges their expert and vice versa on
key skills like communicating ideas clearly, asking appropriate questions,
listening etc…
From: IS
Sent: 13 December 2012 14:47
To: AP
Subject: Re: further adventures re pupil interdependence + TLC
Hi,
Sending apologies re Mon, I've got leave of absence for the
day so won't make the TLC. Or else would have been happy to share what I've
been up to.
In the mean time I stole and amended your revision idea
today.
Year 9 and 10 have a test tomo and my year 11s are winding
down so I gave my year 11 class the following task
" My year 9 and 10 are having a test tomorrow. Can you
look at it and give them hints/ information that will help those who get stuck
on the piece of paper I've given you?
Thanks"
I gave each pair a plain sheet of A3 paper and a copy of the
test. Then they got on with it.
After a while they started writing things on the board (
without prompting from me) then near the end we discussed which info was useful
and which wasn't , the reasons why and whether it was phrased in a way the
other class could understand.
The finished article is attached. Really useful task as it
helped my year 11s to revise too and the G and T kids were really challenged to
explain things in writing in a way that was understandable to somebody of a diff
ability ( who wasn't there with them).
I've asked Dan to photocopy it for tomo and will give it to
my classes as a crib sheet during the test. Then I think I'll ask them to
give feedback re how useful it was and how they improve it.
From: AP
Sent: 14 December 2012 15:59
To: IS
Subject: RE: further adventures re pupil interdependence + TLC
Hi Iesha,
Sorry for not getting back to you sooner. Thanks for letting
me know about Monday.
Love the way you used my revision idea – even better by then
using the products with another class – shows how learning in one lesson can
support a totally different lesson/year group.
Did they find it useful in the end?
AP